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Author Topic: Totting ban leniency?  (Read 1176 times)
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« on: July 30, 2012, 16:05:41 PM »


I recently have been stupid enough to get 4 speeding tickets on 1 set of Specs cameras on the motorway in 1 week all within 10 mph of the posted speed limit. I'm not expecting any sympathy or condesending comments please because most people speed to some degree and I am fully aware of how stupid I have been. I had a clean lisence before this and have driven up and down this stretch on my 90 mile journey to work every day for the last 10 years without incident or prosecution.I believe one set of cameras has been adjusted or turned on. Anway my question is, in your experience are courts likely to show any leniency on grounds of not having the opportunity to adjust my behaviour having 4 tickets in such a short space of time.

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« Reply #1 on: July 30, 2012, 16:31:59 PM »

There are several ways that the OP could be interpreted
a) That I have been abusing and wilfully exceeding the posted speed limit for the last 10 years and managed not to be caught - please let me off!
b) Because I travel a lot of miles to work each day, I must be a careful driver, but slipped on 4 of the 5 days that week.
c) There was nothing in my local paper (90 miles away) to say the SPECS had been turned on and I didn't know
d) I have seen the cameras ever day for  3 years and chose to ignore them
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Z) Dear solicitor, can you help me.
Sorry to be a bit tongue in cheek, but the OP does lead itself to some reasoned interpretations but option Z is favourable.
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« Reply #2 on: July 30, 2012, 16:49:02 PM »

DC,
I'm afraid you won't get a definitive answer on here. As Enduro has said, seeking proper legal advice from a solicitor may be your best option. The Magistrates might look on your case with some lenience. They might not. Nobody knows but them, and you're not going to know for sure until you stand before them and plead your case.
Sorry, and good luck!
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« Reply #3 on: July 31, 2012, 06:44:12 AM »

As an aside, not strictly relevant to the OP but related, the 10%+2mph "leniency" in prosecuting speeding offences is there to take account of the inaccuracy of your speedometer, not to give motorists any kind of break.

By law a speedometer must be accurate to within 10%, which means that if your clock says 50mph you could actually be travelling anywhere between 45 and 55mph. 

So if the SPECS was triggered at "within 10mph" of the posted speed limit (lets assume 59mph) it means the OP's needle was way over the 50mph line, meaning the magistrates are unlikely to have much sympathy. Especially four times.

Worth a try though, I've seen stranger things in court.
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« Reply #4 on: July 31, 2012, 09:52:41 AM »

By law a speedometer must be accurate to within 10%, which means that if your clock says 50mph you could actually be travelling anywhere between 45 and 55mph. 

Not quite, it must be correct OR not more than 10% above actual speed - so the range would be 50-55mph not including the 4549 range.  It must not read below actual speed.
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« Reply #5 on: July 31, 2012, 20:56:17 PM »

My question was more related to the fact that I have not been given the opportunity to change my ways, not that I was or wasn't an idiot who did or didn't observe the limit and by how much, that is clearly evident.


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« Reply #6 on: September 02, 2012, 18:26:58 PM »

My question was more related to the fact that I have not been given the opportunity to change my ways

Well you have now...
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