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Author Topic: New Policing Body - What does it mean for us?  (Read 4244 times)
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« on: December 15, 2011, 19:24:01 PM »

http://www.google.com/hostednews/ukpress/article/ALeqM5iZICLGb035mgDEe1yE8B9Ob-LPpA?docId=N0467931323946946710A

Anyone know what this means for existing cops?

The £50 a year payment to be a cop? For what exactly, some sort of policing licence? Sounds a bit too much SIA for me to be honest.

As for entry level qualifications, are they going to be essential for certain roles or promotion? I wonder if they'll start pushing cops through exams.

It just feels like every day is a new chunk of the cops being pulled out and altered by someone who's not been on the streets ever or someone who's not been on the streets in a hell of a long time. Those suggestions are then given to Theresa May and she rocks the boat again.

I'd suggest that while some minor tweaks in the cops may work that the changes we're seeing are worrying and may ruin the police in the UK sadly. I reckon a better place to look to reform would be the courts and sentencing! Let's leave our evidence gathering, crime fighting cops alone and look at the real problem, the lack of decent sentencing which in my view is the TRUE weak link in the whole system.
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« Reply #1 on: December 15, 2011, 19:47:40 PM »

We'll be fifty quid a year worse off funding a quango that will produce the square root of f*** all.
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« Reply #2 on: December 15, 2011, 20:32:19 PM »

Unless its a replacement for the FED which means we will save some money??
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« Reply #3 on: December 15, 2011, 20:41:46 PM »

If Teresa May thinks she's getting fifty quid out of me (probably more, cos I'm a sergeant) She can fuck right off.

How can they MAKE us pay? Utter garbage. If every copper in the country says "kiss my arse" what can they do? Sack us all? Good luck with that.
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« Reply #4 on: December 16, 2011, 06:05:00 AM »

GR, I totally agree.

But I'd have thought they'll predict that most officers would have that attitude and deduct it at source.
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« Reply #5 on: December 16, 2011, 15:16:29 PM »

Shadow policing minister David Hanson said:

"This Government is implementing reforms to policing which are already late and are still to be finalised. As a result of today's announcement the policing landscape remains muddled with many questions still to be answered. The Government is ploughing ahead with huge cuts and chaotic reforms which is why Labour has commissioned the independent review of policing."

Just what we need, another f*ing review.

Source:Telegraph (not that I am an avid reader)
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« Reply #6 on: December 17, 2011, 11:42:25 AM »

I'd like to see the Fed challenge this in the courts. May is completely and utterly barking mad.

Pay frozen - check.
Pension contributions increased - check
Increase in retirement age - check
Fewer staff - check
And now pay to do your job

Piss off.

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« Reply #7 on: December 17, 2011, 23:33:39 PM »

Ahh, following the lines of having to pay to be a paramedic.

Well it is a privilege to do your job...
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« Reply #8 on: December 18, 2011, 00:18:21 AM »

Is anyone reviewing the roles, benefits, pay etc. of being an MP?

More to the point, if we're all told that cuts must be made everywhere, are such heavy cuts also going to hit the MPs?HuhHuhHuhHuhHuhHuh
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« Reply #9 on: December 18, 2011, 06:06:54 AM »

Is anyone reviewing the roles, benefits, pay etc. of being an MP?
Actually they are. The recommendation on the table is to put an end to the amount of expenses they can claim.  Don't get excited though. In order to do this they are going to have to massively increase their meagre salary.
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« Reply #10 on: December 18, 2011, 10:23:55 AM »

That looks very similar to the General Teaching Council that Tony Blair set up over 10 years ago where teachers had to pay £35 a year just to get a 'License' to teach.
£35 x 800,000 teachers is a nice little earner & gave a good job to one of Blair's mates to run it.

I have been told that nurses have a similar scheme.

I hope your Federation is stronger than the Teaching Unions is fighting it.
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« Reply #11 on: December 18, 2011, 16:24:35 PM »

That looks very similar to the General Teaching Council that Tony Blair set up over 10 years ago where teachers had to pay £35 a year just to get a 'License' to teach.
£35 x 800,000 teachers is a nice little earner & gave a good job to one of Blair's mates to run it.

I have been told that nurses have a similar scheme.

I hope your Federation is stronger than the Teaching Unions is fighting it.

It's £36.50 now, pointless, but:

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The Secretary of State for Education announced on 2 June 2010 that legislation will be introduced to abolish the General Teaching Council for England. The proposed abolition does not affect the need to register for 2011-12.

Heh, taking from one, giving to another, gotta love politics, it makes such sense.
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« Reply #12 on: December 18, 2011, 23:59:27 PM »


I have been told that nurses have a similar scheme.


My missus is a nurse....she pays £70 odd a year for the privilege of being a Registered Nurse. She has recently qualified to prescribe drugs and will now have to pay another £40 a year to register that, she is also studying to become an Advanced Nurse Practitioner....if they add that to the register she will have to pay another wad of cash....

All this on top of paying union fees to the worse than toothless Royal College of Nursing.....
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« Reply #13 on: December 19, 2011, 09:46:29 AM »

That looks very similar to the General Teaching Council that Tony Blair set up over 10 years ago where teachers had to pay £35 a year just to get a 'License' to teach.

I wouldn't disagree with that in principle if they made it a way of weeding out poor teachers. However it seems to me that if you stump up the cash you keep your job, no matter how poor you are at it.
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« Reply #14 on: December 21, 2011, 16:17:14 PM »

I was wondering if this was a way to make it easier to get rid of cops from the job? Simply refuse to renew their 'policing licence'. A sneaky back way of cutting numbers.

It seems odd that we have a registration system for some professions.

Either way, this seems like an SIA system, but for the cops. I don't see what it will achieve except extra cash for the government???
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