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I am a recovery operative, working for a independent contractor that spends most of my time working on the motorway or other major roads.

Does anybody feel the same as I do, that amber warning beacons have lost their effectiveness now due to their total over use on any and every vehicle traveling down the motorway.

AVRO (Association of Vehicle Recovery Operators) have suggested in a government think-tank, the use of a purple..ish coloured beacon (similar to that used by funeral processions).

Any thoughts?

And as an after thought, would I be right in thinking that I could use flashing red lights on the rear of my recovery truck, as long as they do not flash in an alternating sequence?

SgtAngel:
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AVRO (Association of Vehicle Recovery Operators) have suggested in a government think-tank, the use of a purple..ish coloured beacon (similar to that used by funeral processions).


Funeral processions in this country do not use purple beacons. The whole point of an amber beacon is to warn road users of a vehicles presence, not necessarily the role that it is fulfilling. The list of vehicles entitled to use Amber beacons is RVLR 1989 (11)(2)(L):-

a road clearance vehicle;
a vehicle constructed or adapted for the purpose of collecting refuse;
a breakdown vehicle;
a vehicle having a maximum speed not exceeding 25 mph or any trailer drawn by such a vehicle;
a vehicle having an overall width (including any load) exceeding 2.9 m;
a vehicle used for the purposes of testing, maintaining, improving, cleansing or watering roads or for any purpose incidental to any such use;
a vehicle used for the purpose of inspecting, cleansing, maintaining, adjusting, renewing or installing any apparatus which is in, on, under or over a road, or for any purpose incidental to any such use;
a vehicle used for or in connection with any purpose for which it is authorised to be used on roads by an order under section 44 of the Act;
a vehicle used for escort purposes when travelling at a speed not exceeding 25 mph;
a vehicle used by the Commissioners of Customs and Excise for the purpose of testing fuels;
a vehicle used for the purpose of surveying;
a vehicle used for the removal or immobilisation of vehicles in exercise of a statutory power or duty;

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And as an after thought, would I be right in thinking that I could use flashing red lights on the rear of my recovery truck, as long as they do not flash in an alternating sequence?


At present you cannot use flashing (or alternating in any sequence) red lamps. The vehicle lighting regs did not change and only police (and I think the Fire / Ambulance may also be exempt now) have the necessary dispensation from the DoT to use flashing reds.

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Please accept my apologies for being "anonymous" but i'm waiting for my registration email to come through.

I am aware of the regulations for what should have and should not have amber beacons fitted.

But as I said in last post these appear to be totally disregarded and everyman and his dog "Needs" to have a amber beacon fitted. Which does nothing but water down the desired affect of having a beacon fitted which as far as I am aware is to warn other roadusers of your presence and the potential danger associated to your prescence.

What I am asking is.. If others feel the same as me. Does an amber flashing light have any affect to you and your driving manner.
Obvoiusly I am concerned about my safety and from a purely selfish point of view I want me and my recovery vehicle to stand out like a sore thumb, as I am sure all police officers are aware working on the motorway can be a uncomfortable experience at the best of times. But.... police have the benefit of working within the protection (all be it limited)  of the jam causing, rubber necker producing blue light. Whereas out on the road I feel that my amber beacons afford me no protection at all.

I digress... my question is do people feel that the amber beacon has lost its meaning and do they agree that there is a place for an additional colour or colours for designated uses within the motorway network?

Brassy:
Ambers have definitley become watered down over recent years as all and sundry are using them. I'm with you in agreeing that anything that makes you stand out on the motorway is a GOOD THING. The problems occur when you are doing a bog standard breakdown recovery from the hard shoulder when the traffic is whizzing by at its usual speed of 70 plus rather than when there has been an RTC and the traffic is usually much slower.

There are degrees of ambers though - I am a HATO and our ambers are VERY bright strobes and are difficult to miss even in strong sunlight and much more effective than rotating beacons. In addition we also show reds to the rear which draw attention to the vehicle without the rubber-necking that blues can cause.

The best advice is that your recovery vehicle should have the best ambers that you can obtain, the vehicle is painted in the latest high visibilty finish and that everything is kept clean and in good working condition. The best practice of doing a full lift off the motorway prior to attempting repairs has got to be the way forward for everyones safety.

Stay lucky!

Brassy

recovery1:
Thanks for your input Brassy.

I must say that the job feels a lot safer now that you HATO's are out and about. Here in Bristol we had a few teething problems when the HATO roll out first started, most of which boiled down to very poor communication, no-one really knowing what purpose HATO's where there for and a few over zealous HATO's wearing their wannabe coppers hat.

BUT now 6 months on what a god send you guys are. No more trying to do a wheel change with 44 tonne death machines whizzing past your ears.
Our HATO guys here will usually have the first lane closed b4 we have even got there.

Back to warning lighting, perhaps there is an argument for those of us who work on the hard shoulder getting dispensation to use flashing reds?

I'm half tempted to fit my truck with them anyway as looking at the number of normal vehicles (especially Articulated Lorrys) that now have all manner of MOOD lighting in all colours of the rainbow fitted. Would the police really bat an eyelid?
For instance I saw an artic the other day with flashing green LED's on his dash, aren't green flashing lights only for doctors on emergency calls to use?

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